Playing as a vassal

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As a vassal, you are protected from outside attacks, but you have additional concerns and duties.

Military strength[edit]

As a vassal, your military is weaker than independent rulers of the same size and rank. Independent rulers get a +50% bonus to levies from the capital, and +25% bonus from their capital duchy if they're a duke or above. As a vassal, you get no bonus levies from your capital as a count, and a reduced bonus of +25% from the capital and +15% from the capital duchy if you're a duke or king. Thus, unless you have other factors in your favor, concentrate on expanding within your liege's realm, especially if you're a vassal count; securing that first duchy title would help you greatly.

Gaining strength[edit]

As a vassal count, becoming the duke of the duchy your county belongs to is a step up in terms of military power. Beyond that, becoming a grand duke will give a +1 bonus to your demesne limit before modifiers. A grand duke with complete control of the capital duchy is in a relatively strong position for greater ambitions. Of course, before this stage, you might want to settle your succession laws.

Raiding rights[edit]

As a vassal, if your government type is the only reason why you can (potentially) raid, your liege's government type must allow raiding as well. Vassal tribes who cannot raid due to their culture or religion must have a tribal or nomadic liege in order to raid. Thus, Anglo-Saxon tribes under the Petty Kingdom of Northumbria in 769 cannot raid unless they become independent, but Swedish Pagan tribes under the Catholic king of Sweden in 1066 can raid, provided they stay Pagan. If they convert to Catholicism, then they must become independent in order to raid.

Defending your liege[edit]

Sometimes, you may have to raise your own troops to help defend your liege. This is especially important if your titles are at stake and and your contributions would definitely be able to turn the tide decisively in your liege's favor. Battles started with your own troops will not contribute to the war score. As such, you should link your army to your liege's army or join ongoing battles. Alternatively, you can destroy enemy troops and let your liege concentrate on sieging.

Joining factions[edit]

You can create or join up to two factions.

If you are the most powerful faction member in the realm, your liege is likely to send their spymaster to scheme in your capital, forcing you to promise never to start factions. Due to a bug(??), you can still join factions even if you have been discouraged from factionalism.

You will be the leader of a faction if you create it, or if you are the most powerful member when the leader quits. Being a faction leader has significant advantages:

  • You can judge the best time to send an ultimatum better than AI leaders, and can wage war more effectively.
  • You can recruit faction members using the spymaster "Scheme" mission, Intrigue focus, or favors.
    • With the latter two methods, you may be able to avoid creating the faction until you are ready, thus avoiding attention from your liege's spymaster. However, there is a risk that someone else will create your preferred faction and you will not be able to lead it.

On the other hand, being a non-leader member lets you double your troop contribution to the revolt. AI leaders may issue an ultimatum whenever faction power is above 75%; you may wish to avoid joining until the power (with yourself included) is around 120%.

AI rulers may fold if faction power is at least 100%, letting you both avoid a costly war. They are more likely to fold at 150%, 200%, and 300% power. They are less likely to fold for each of Strong/Brawny, Brave , Proud , Envious , Greedy , Wroth , or Ambitious . They are more likely to fold with each of the opposite traits. Finally, they are less likely to cave to attempts to usurp their titles.

With Conclave activated, being a council member may prevent you from joining factions. You can resign your position if this is a problem.

War against a liege[edit]

Any war against your liege will mark you as "in revolt", preventing you from declaring other wars. Some wars, including all faction wars, also give you a "temporary title" of the same tier as your liege. While you hold a temporary title, most diplomatic interactions are disabled.

Some wars can be directly declared against a liege, without using a faction. Notable among these are:

  • Press claim, which uses the faction version of the CB, giving you a temporary title
  • Press all claims, which does not give you a temporary title
  • Independence (see link for differences from the faction version)
  • Decadence usurpation

Unlike sending a faction ultimatum, declaring war on your liege does not require being at peace. This makes it more feasible to build external alliances before going to war with your liege.

Gaining liege titles[edit]

A count vassal of a king or emperor can request the duchy in which they reside. Each character can only use this decision once, even with a new liege, so you should only use it when your liege thinks highly of you (50+) and does not have the greedy trait.

Taking over your liege's main title is a more difficult process. There are several possible approaches:

  • Faction war to install yourself. You must be either a claimant, or an elector-rank vassal under feudal elective.
    • You can use the "Fabricate Claim on Liege" plot if you are a direct de jure vassal. This is more likely to succeed if you can become spymaster, and during the reign of an unpopular king.
    • You can get claims for your heirs by marrying your liege's relatives into your family.
    • You can force feudal elective through several types of factions.
  • Faction to oust the ruler.
    • If you are the "most popular vassal", this makes you king or queen in one step. You can often become the most popular by sending gifts to other vassals (including baron-tier) or by disqualifying other contestants.
    • If you are not the most popular, this faction can still be useful, by forcing elective succession and replacing your liege with someone you don't have a truce with.
  • Be elected peacefully.
    • A good time to try to get yourself elected is when the ruler starts having children. Rulers are strongly inclined to nominate their own children, while vassals are inclined to vote for adults.
    • If you see the election in your favor, murder your liege before it swings another way!
  • Inherit the title through fallback. If you murder your liege's entire family, one of the highest-tier vassals will inherit.
  • Expand internally to control half the realm. Then you can demand independence and peacefully usurp the title. This won't transfer control of your former liege's other vassals to you, but they'll be likely to accept peaceful vassalization requests.

Joining the council[edit]


  • Doubled plot power against liege, more if spymaster
    • Can be used for assassination or for plotting to claim your liege's title
  • May offer to help with liege titles if your liege is over demesne limit by 4.
    • Must be chancellor, steward, or spiritual. Must not be slothful . Liege must not be nomadic.
    • May select yourself as the recipient if greedy , ambitious , envious , deceitful , or arbitrary 
  • With Conclave: opportunities to gain favors
    • Favors from your liege can be used to start a law vote, request a claim war, or request a different position on the council
    • Favors from fellow council members can be used to force them to join your factions (if they can join factions despite being on the council!)
  • Without Conclave: gain +1 in the relevant skill, by selecting the appropriate "become councilor" ambition when your liege offers you a position.
  • May become regent
  • Monthly prestige (chancellor, marshal, steward) or piety (lord spiritual)
  • Salary
  • As spymaster, your liege cannot discover your plots, except through blabbing or intrigue focus
  • As spymaster, your liege cannot use the Scheme mission to force you out of factions


  • You may be sent on a mission to a plague-infested province. Check your location frequently!
  • As spymaster, you may be sent on the dangerous Scheme mission.
  • As marshal who is wroth  or steward who is greedy : you could be accused of a crime that allows your liege to confiscate your entire treasury. (The steward one is only active if playing without Conclave.)

Crown authority[edit]

Crown authority decreases your available demesne levies by 20% per level, effectively forcing you to leave some levy troops as extra garrison. But it also applies to your vassals: if you are a duke, crown authority forces counts to provide troops even if they dislike you.

After any succession, other vassals are likely to join factions to lower crown authority -- especially if crown authority is already high, and especially if they are not inclined to join an independence faction instead. You probably want to lead this faction: you can choose whether to issue an ultimatum (depending on what you think of the CA level), and you control when and how it fights. However, if you are powerful enough, you could join the faction as a member and contribute both temporary-liege levies and personal levies.

A guaranteed way to lower crown authority is to present an ultimatum during a regency. The regent will always force the ruler to cave, even if the faction is pitifully weak.

If you intend to carve out your realm while remaining within your liege's, lowering CA to below Medium is crucial as Medium CA disables wars between vassals.

Having your titles revoked[edit]

Your liege is likely to revoke your titles if:

  • Actively dislikes you (-25 or worse?) and has a valid reason, or
  • Views you as an infidel (even without Religious Control law), or
  • Revoking the de jure capital of their primary title, or possibly the duchy that contains it

Playing in an empire with viceroyalty law[edit]

If you start in the Byzantine Empire, you may notice that your duchy title or your liege's duchy title is a viceroyalty. Viceroyalties revert to the liege (usually the emperor) on death. AI emperors can be expected to immediately select a new viceroy, usually from among the local counts.

If you are a viceroy, your first priority should be to revoke every vassal county. By owning every county in the de jure duchy, you maximize the chance that your liege will choose you as the new viceroy. Only in rare cases will your liege grant a viceroyalty to someone who holds no counties within the de jure duchy.

Once you have solid control of your duchy, you can either aim to create a new duchy or a new kingdom or a new kingdom. Any title you create personally will be inheritable and you will no longer have to worry about losing rank on succession. One method is to fabricate a claim on a frontier county, then use it as a launching point for a holy war on an entire duchy.

If you are a count under a viceroy, you should understand that claimant factions are disabled in viceroyalties. However, you can still use the "Declare War" interaction to press a personal claim against your liege. If your parent was a viceroy, you should have a weak claim, which you can use if your liege is a child or if you can plot to make them go into hiding (intrigue-educated lieges only).

Alternatively, you might fabricate a claim on your liege's capital. If your liege has no other land and no vassals for an emergency-usurp, the duchy title will be destroyed. You can then create the title again as an inheritable (non-viceroy) title, as long as the emperor doesn't beat you to it!

Lowering your opinion of your liege[edit]

When your opinion of your liege is low, you can escape paying taxes or paying for liege levy maintenance. Having a low opinion is also a prerequisite for the "fabricate claim on liege title" plot (depending on traits). However, if the low opinion goes both ways, you may run the risk of having your titles revoked.

  • Convert to another religion and become zealous  (one-way; if your liege is of a different religion and zealous, be careful!)
  • Convert to another culture (two-way)
  • Become ambitious  and activate ambition opinion (one-way)
  • Take on traits that conflict with your liege's traits (mostly one-way)
  • Join a faction and wait for your liege's spymaster to force you to stop (-5 opinion: "Discouraged from Factionalism") (one-way)
  • Reduce general vassal opinion: Assassinate your liege or liege's chancellor; excommunicate your liege if possible; Byzantine emperors and Catholic emperors who have the Pope as a vassal are immune. (one-way)
  • If Conclave is activated, refuse a seat on your liege's council if you qualify as a "powerful vassal" (one-way). This also allows you to join factions freely if you are non-tribal or non-nomadic.
  • Get claims on your liege's titles